P-368
IS ALZHEIMER’S DISEASE A PRION DISEASE?
Segarra C and Coste J
Etablissement Francais du Sang Pyr en ees-M editerran ee R&D TransDiag,
Montpellier,
France
Alzheimer’s disease (AD) is the most common type of senile dementia, mainly
affecting individuals over 65 years old. Disease manifestation is characterized
by progressive impairment of memory and cognition, mainly produced by synaptic
dysfunction and neuronal loss. This fatal neurodegenerative disease is a matter
of great interest because since its first description in 1906 by the
psychiatrist A. Alzheimer the AD cases doesn’t stop to increase and more than
90% of disease arise sporadically. Cerebral accumulation of misfofded protein
aggregates composed of amyloid b (Ab) proteins and hyperphosphorylated tau
protein have been associated to the disease. In the past decade, there has been
renewed interest in the possibility that the proteins causing neurodegenerative
disorders are all prions. Recently, the origin of the disease, described until
now as linked to aging, was re-evaluated by S. Prusiner (Nobel Prize). In animal
models he has shown that, when the neurodegenerative process had been started,
it propagates over all the brain, by a prion-like mechanism – prion is the
responsible agent of Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy (TSE) such as
Creutzfeldt-Jacob Disease (CJD).
The misfolding and aggregation mechanisms and structural intermediates are
very similar in both AD and TSE. The starting point would be a normal protein,
PrPC (Cellular Prion) for TSE and APP (Amyloid Precursor Protein) for AD, which
would be converted into pathological misfolded proteins (MFP): PrPSc (scrapie
Prion) and Ab protein respectively. These MFP would be then implicated in a
process of selfaggregation, leading to the formation of amyloid plaques in the
brain. Moreover the mechanism of aggregation follows the same seeding-nucleation
process.
Several studies in animal models had shown that:
1 For TSE, the PrPSc aggregates generated by this process were
infectious.
2 Ab deposition can be induced by injection of AD brain extracts into
animals which without exposure to this material will never develop brain
alterations.
3 The transfusion of blood from mice with amyloid plaques in brain
accelerates the neuro-degenerative phenomenon and the memory loss in two
different models of healthy transgenic mice.
In conclusion, questions on the infectivity of Ab protein in Alzheimer’s
disease and the possible secondary transmission by blood transfusion are posed.
Alzheimer’s disease and Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy prion
disease, Iatrogenic, what if ?
Background
Alzheimer’s disease and Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy disease
have both been around a long time, and was discovered in or around the same time
frame, early 1900’s. Both diseases are incurable and debilitating brain disease,
that are in the end, 100% fatal, with the incubation/clinical period of the
Alzheimer’s disease being longer (most of the time) than the TSE prion disease.
Symptoms are very similar, and pathology is very similar.
Methods
Through years of research, as a layperson, of peer review journals,
transmission studies, and observations of loved ones and friends that have died
from both Alzheimer’s and the TSE prion disease i.e. Heidenhain Variant
Creutzfelt Jakob Disease CJD.
Results
I propose that Alzheimer’s is a TSE disease of low dose, slow, and long
incubation disease, and that Alzheimer’s is Transmissible, and is a threat to
the public via the many Iatrogenic routes and sources. It was said long ago that
the only thing that disputes this, is Alzheimer’s disease transmissibility, or
the lack of. The likelihood of many victims of Alzheimer’s disease from the many
different Iatrogenic routes and modes of transmission as with the TSE prion
disease.
Conclusions
There should be a Global Congressional Science round table event set up
immediately to address these concerns from the many potential routes and sources
of the TSE prion disease, including Alzheimer’s disease, and a emergency global
doctrine put into effect to help combat the spread of Alzheimer’s disease via
the medical, surgical, dental, tissue, and blood arena’s. All human and animal
TSE prion disease, including Alzheimer’s should be made reportable in every
state, and Internationally, WITH NO age restrictions. Until a proven method of
decontamination and autoclaving is proven, and put forth in use universally, in
all hospitals and medical, surgical arena’s, or the TSE prion agent will
continue to spread. IF we wait until science and corporate politicians wait
until politics lets science _prove_ this once and for all, and set forth
regulations there from, we will all be exposed to the TSE Prion agents, if that
has not happened already.
end...tss
SEE FULL TEXT AND SOURCE REFERENCES ;
Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Alzheimer’s disease and Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy prion
disease, Iatrogenic, what if ?
Proposal ID: 29403
Subject: [BLOODCJD] Alzheimer's Association 2013 Alzheimer's Disease Facts
and Figures Today, an American develops Alzheimer's disease every 68 seconds. In
2050, an American will develop the disease every 33 seconds.
An estimated 5.2 million Americans of all ages have Alzheimer's disease in
2013. This includes an estimated 5 million people age 65 and older and
approximately 200,000 individuals younger than age 65 who have younger-onset
Alzheimer's.
The number of Americans with Alzheimer's disease and other dementias will
grow as the U.S. population age 65 and older continues to increase. By 2025, the
number of people age 65 and older with Alzheimer's disease is estimated to reach
7.1 million—a 40 percent increase from the 5 million age 65 and older currently
affected. By 2050, the number of people age 65 and older with Alzheimer's
disease may nearly triple, from 5 million to a projected 13.8 million, barring
the development of medical breakthroughs to prevent, slow or stop the disease.
Mortality
Alzheimer's disease is the 6th leading cause of death in the United States
overall and the 5th leading cause of death for those aged 65 and older. It is
the only cause of death among the top 10 in America without a way to prevent it,
cure it or even slow its progression. Deaths from Alzheimer's increased 68
percent between 2000 and 2010, while deaths from other major diseases, including
the number one cause of death (heart disease), decreased.
While ambiguity about the underlying cause of death can make it difficult
to determine how many people die from Alzheimer's, there are no survivors. If
you do not die from Alzheimer's disease, you die with it. One in every three
seniors dies with Alzheimer's or another dementia.
Impact on Caregivers
In 2012, 15.4 million family and friends provided 17.5 billion hours of
unpaid care to those with Alzheimer's and other dementias — care valued at
$216.4 billion, which is more than eight times the total sales of McDonald's in
2011. Eighty percent of care provided in the community is provided by unpaid
caregivers.
Nearly 15 percent of caregivers are long-distance caregivers, living an
hour or more away from their loved ones. Out-of-pocket expenses for
long-distance caregivers are nearly twice as much as local caregivers.
More than 60 percent of Alzheimer's and dementia caregivers rate the
emotional stress of caregiving as high or very high; more than one-third report
symptoms of depression. Due to the physical and emotional toll of caregiving,
Alzheimer's and dementia caregivers had $9.1 billion in additional health care
costs of their own in 2012.
Cost to the nation
In 2013, the direct costs of caring for those with Alzheimer's to American
society will total an estimated $203 billion, including $142 billion in costs to
Medicare and Medicaid. Total payments for health care, long-term care and
hospice for people with Alzheimer's and other dementias are projected to
increase from $203 billion in 2013 to $1.2 trillion in 2050 (in current
dollars). This dramatic rise includes a 500% increase in combined Medicare and
Medicaid spending.
Nearly 30 percent of people with Alzheimer's and other dementias are on
both Medicare and Medicaid, compared to 11 percent of individuals without these
conditions.
The average per-person Medicare costs for those with Alzheimer's and other
dementias are three times higher than for those without these conditions; the
average per-person Medicaid spending for seniors with Alzheimer's and other
dementias is 19 times higher than average per-person Medicaid spending for all
other seniors.
Alzheimer's disease facts in each state
The 2013 Alzheimer's Disease Facts and Figures report contains data on the
impact of this disease in every state across the nation. Click below to see the
effect that Alzheimer's is having in your state.
very sad, and very disturbing figures...tss
2013 Alzheimer’s disease facts and figures Includes a Special Report on
long-distance caregivers
Transmission of Prions and Alzheimer’s disease Abeta Amyloid
Claudio Soto, PhD
Mitchell Center for Alzheimer’s disease and Related Brain Disorders, Dept
of Neurology
University of Texas Medical School at Houston
Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Alzheimer's Association 2013 Alzheimer's Disease Facts and Figures
Today, an American develops Alzheimer's disease every 68 seconds. In 2050,
an American will develop the disease every 33 seconds.
Sunday, February 10, 2013
Parkinson's Disease and Alpha Synuclein: Is Parkinson's Disease a
Prion-Like Disorder?
Saturday, October 13, 2012
On the issue of transmissibility of Alzheimer disease: A critical review.
Tuesday, October 4, 2011
Molecular Psychiatry
advance online publication 4 October 2011; doi: 10.1038/mp.2011.120
De novo induction of amyloid-ß deposition in vivo
Our results suggest that some of the typical brain abnormalities associated
with AD can be induced by a prion-like mechanism of disease transmission through
propagation of protein misfolding. These findings may have broad implications
for understanding the molecular mechanisms responsible for the initiation of AD,
and may contribute to the development of new strategies for disease prevention
and intervention. Keywords: amyloid; prion; protein misfolding; disease
transmission
see more here ;
Wednesday, September 21, 2011
PrioNet Canada researchers in Vancouver confirm prion-like properties in
Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS)
Published Date: 2011-10-03 19:22:21 Subject: PRO/AH/EDR> Prion disease
update 2011 (09) Archive Number: 20111003.2983
PRION DISEASE UPDATE 2011 (09)
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Ann N Y Acad Sci. 1982;396:131-43.
Alzheimer's disease and transmissible virus dementia (Creutzfeldt-Jakob
disease).
Brown P, Salazar AM, Gibbs CJ Jr, Gajdusek DC.
Abstract
Ample justification exists on clinical, pathologic, and biologic grounds
for considering a similar pathogenesis for AD and the spongiform virus
encephalopathies. However, the crux of the comparison rests squarely on results
of attempts to transmit AD to experimental animals, and these results have not
as yet validated a common etiology. Investigations of the biologic similarities
between AD and the spongiform virus encephalopathies proceed in several
laboratories, and our own observation of inoculated animals will be continued in
the hope that incubation periods for AD may be even longer than those of CJD.
CJD1/9 0185 Ref: 1M51A
IN STRICT CONFIDENCE
Dr McGovern From: Dr A Wight Date: 5 January 1993 Copies: Dr Metters Dr
Skinner Dr Pickles Dr Morris Mr Murray
TRANSMISSION OF ALZHEIMER-TYPE PLAQUES TO PRIMATES
1. CMO will wish to be aware that a meeting was held at DH yesterday, 4
January, to discuss the above findings. It was chaired by Professor Murray
(Chairman of the MRC Co-ordinating Committee on Research in the Spongiform
Encephalopathies in Man), and attended by relevant experts in the fields of
Neurology, Neuropathology, molecular biology, amyloid biochemistry, and the
spongiform encephalopathies, and by representatives of the MRC and AFRC. 2.
Briefly, the meeting agreed that:
i) Dr Ridley et als findings of experimental induction of p amyloid in
primates were valid, interesting and a significant advance in the understanding
of neurodegenerative disorders;
ii) there were no immediate implications for the public health, and no
further safeguards were thought to be necessary at present; and
iii) additional research was desirable, both epidemiological and at the
molecular level. Possible avenues are being followed up by DH and the MRC, but
the details will require further discussion. 93/01.05/4.1
BSE101/1 0136
IN CONFIDENCE
5 NOV 1992 CMO From: Dr J S Metters DCMO 4 November 1992
TRANSMISSION OF ALZHEIMER TYPE PLAQUES TO PRIMATES
1. Thank you for showing me Diana Dunstan's letter. I am glad that MRC have
recognized the public sensitivity of these findings and intend to report them in
their proper context. This hopefully will avoid misunderstanding and possible
distortion by the media to portray the results as having more greater
significance than the findings so far justify.
2. Using a highly unusual route of transmission (intra-cerebral injection)
the researchers have demonstrated the transmission of a pathological process
from two cases one of severe Alzheimer's disease the other of
Gerstmann-Straussler disease to marmosets. However they have not demonstrated
the transmission of either clinical condition as the "animals were behaving
normally when killed'. As the report emphasizes the unanswered question is
whether the disease condition would have revealed itself if the marmosets had
lived longer. They are planning further research to see if the conditions, as
opposed to the partial pathological process, is transmissible. What are the
implications for public health?
3. The route of transmission is very specific and in the natural state of
things highly unusual. However it could be argued that the results reveal a
potential risk, in that brain tissue from these two patients has been shown to
transmit a pathological process. Should therefore brain tissue from such cases
be regarded as potentially infective? Pathologists, morticians, neuro surgeons
and those assisting at neuro surgical procedures and others coming into contact
with "raw" human brain tissue could in theory be at risk. However, on a priori
grounds given the highly specific route of transmission in these experiments
that risk must be negligible if the usual precautions for handling brain tissue
are observed.
92/11.4/1-1 BSE101/1 0137
4. The other dimension to consider is the public reaction. To some extent
the GSS case demonstrates little more than the transmission of BSE to a pig by
intra-cerebral injection. If other prion diseases can be transmitted in this way
it is little surprise that some pathological findings observed in GSS were also
transmissible to a marmoset. But the transmission of features of Alzheimer's
pathology is a different matter, given the much greater frequency of this
disease and raises the unanswered question whether some cases are the result of
a transmissible prion. The only tenable public line will be that "more research
is required" before that hypothesis could be evaluated. The possibility on a
transmissible prion remains open. In the meantime MRC needs carefully to
consider the range and sequence of studies needed to follow through from the
preliminary observations in these two cases. Not a particularly comfortable
message, but until we know more about the causation of Alzheimer's disease the
total reassurance is not practical.
JS METTERS Room 509 Richmond House Pager No: 081-884 3344 Callsign: DOH 832
121/YdeS 92/11.4/1.2
BSE101/1 0136
IN CONFIDENCE
CMO
From: Dr J S Metters DCMO
4 November 1992
TRANSMISSION OF ALZHEIMER TYPE PLAQUES TO PRIMATES
CJD1/9 0185
Ref: 1M51A
IN STRICT CONFIDENCE
From: Dr. A Wight Date: 5 January 1993
Copies:
Dr Metters Dr Skinner Dr Pickles Dr Morris Mr Murray
TRANSMISSION OF ALZHEIMER-TYPE PLAQUES TO PRIMATES
Wednesday, January 5, 2011
ENLARGING SPECTRUM OF PRION-LIKE DISEASES Prusiner Colby et al 2011 Prions
David W. Colby1,* and Stanley B. Prusiner1,2
01:33 PM on 10/07/2011
what concerns me here, is the potential for the iatrogenic transmission of
Alzheimer's disease. if proven, and there is other science showing the
likelihood of this being true, but this would explain a great deal, and would
explain the high increase of Alzheimers disease over the last decade. the
medical, surgical, dental, blood, tissue, would all be a canidate for potential
transmission. we must fund all these TSE prion disease research, and pursuit the
cause and cure of these neurological mad cow type TSE prion disease...
Tuesday, October 4, 2011
De novo induction of amyloid-ß deposition in vivo
Molecular Psychiatry advance online publication 4 October 2011; doi:
10.1038/mp.2011.120
Saturday, January 22, 2011
Alzheimer's, Prion, and Neurological disease, and the misdiagnosis there
of, a review 2011
Wednesday, April 27, 2011
GENERATION ALZHEIMER'S: THE DEFINING DISEASE OF THE BABY BOOMERS
Friday, September 3, 2010
Alzheimer's, Autism, Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis, Parkinson's, Prionoids,
Prionpathy, Prionopathy, TSE
'Harmless' prion protein linked to Alzheimer's disease
Saturday, March 22, 2008
Thanks Terry Singeltary, Sr. for your post. First time I have ever
bookmarked a comment page before.
2009-02-26 09:43:47 PM Posted by: David Deal
#17057 Thursday, December 23, 2010
Alimentary prion infections: Touch-down in the intestine, Alzheimer,
Parkinson disease and TSE mad cow diseases $ The Center for Consumer Freedom
Commentary
TSS
2010-12-24 07:09:49 PM Posted by: Terry S. Singeltary Sr.
10 Million Baby Boomers to have Alzheimer's in the coming decades 2008
Alzheimer’s disease facts and figures
14th ICID International Scientific Exchange Brochure -
Final Abstract Number: ISE.114
Session: International Scientific Exchange
Transmissible Spongiform encephalopathy (TSE) animal and human TSE in North
America update October 2009
T. Singeltary
Bacliff, TX, USA
Background:
An update on atypical BSE and other TSE in North America. Please remember,
the typical U.K. c-BSE, the atypical l-BSE (BASE), and h-BSE have all been
documented in North America, along with the typical scrapie's, and atypical
Nor-98 Scrapie, and to date, 2 different strains of CWD, and also TME. All these
TSE in different species have been rendered and fed to food producing animals
for humans and animals in North America (TSE in cats and dogs ?), and that the
trading of these TSEs via animals and products via the USA and Canada has been
immense over the years, decades.
Methods:
12 years independent research of available data
Results:
I propose that the current diagnostic criteria for human TSEs only enhances
and helps the spreading of human TSE from the continued belief of the UKBSEnvCJD
only theory in 2009. With all the science to date refuting it, to continue to
validate this old myth, will only spread this TSE agent through a multitude of
potential routes and sources i.e. consumption, medical i.e., surgical, blood,
dental, endoscopy, optical, nutritional supplements, cosmetics etc.
Conclusion:
I would like to submit a review of past CJD surveillance in the USA, and
the urgent need to make all human TSE in the USA a reportable disease, in every
state, of every age group, and to make this mandatory immediately without
further delay. The ramifications of not doing so will only allow this agent to
spread further in the medical, dental, surgical arena's. Restricting the
reporting of CJD and or any human TSE is NOT scientific. Iatrogenic CJD knows NO
age group, TSE knows no boundaries. I propose as with Aguzzi, Asante, Collinge,
Caughey, Deslys, Dormont, Gibbs, Gajdusek, Ironside, Manuelidis, Marsh, et al
and many more, that the world of TSE Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy is
far from an exact science, but there is enough proven science to date that this
myth should be put to rest once and for all, and that we move forward with a new
classification for human and animal TSE that would properly identify the
infected species, the source species, and then the route.
Friday, October 05, 2012
Differential Diagnosis of Jakob-Creutzfeldt Disease
Monday, August 20, 2012
CASE REPORTS CREUTZFELDT-JAKOB DISEASE: AN UNDER-RECOGNIZED CAUSE OF
DEMENTIA
see the Duke, Pa, Yale, and Mexican study here, showing the misdiagnosis of
CJD TSE prion disease as Alzheimers ;
Terry S. Singeltary Sr. on the Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease Public Health
Crisis
full text with source references ;
re-Human Prion Diseases in the United States Posted by flounder on 01 Jan
2010 at 18:11 GMT
I kindly disagree with your synopsis for the following reasons ;
Tuesday, November 08, 2011
Can Mortality Data Provide Reliable Indicators for Creutzfeldt-Jakob
Disease Surveillance? A Study in France from 2000 to 2008 Vol. 37, No. 3-4, 2011
Original Paper
Conclusions:These findings raise doubt about the possibility of a reliable
CJD surveillance only based on mortality data.
Views & Reviews
Monitoring the occurrence of emerging forms of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in
the United States
Ermias D. Belay, MD, Ryan A. Maddox, MPH, Pierluigi Gambetti, MD and
Lawrence B. Schonberger, MD
+ Author Affiliations
From the Division of Viral and Rickettsial Diseases (Drs. Belay and
Schonberger and R.A. Maddox), National Center for Infectious Diseases, Centers
for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta, GA; and National Prion Disease
Pathology Surveillance Center (Dr. Gambetti), Division of Neuropathology,
Institute of Pathology, Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH.
Address correspondence and reprint requests to Dr. Ermias D. Belay, 1600
Clifton Road, Mailstop A-39, Atlanta, GA 30333.
26 March 2003
Terry S. Singeltary, retired (medically) CJD WATCH
I lost my mother to hvCJD (Heidenhain Variant CJD). I would like to comment
on the CDC's attempts to monitor the occurrence of emerging forms of CJD.
Asante, Collinge et al [1] have reported that BSE transmission to the
129-methionine genotype can lead to an alternate phenotype that is
indistinguishable from type 2 PrPSc, the commonest sporadic CJD. However, CJD
and all human TSEs are not reportable nationally. CJD and all human TSEs must be
made reportable in every state and internationally. I hope that the CDC does not
continue to expect us to still believe that the 85%+ of all CJD cases which are
sporadic are all spontaneous, without route/source. We have many TSEs in the USA
in both animal and man. CWD in deer/elk is spreading rapidly and CWD does
transmit to mink, ferret, cattle, and squirrel monkey by intracerebral
inoculation. With the known incubation periods in other TSEs, oral transmission
studies of CWD may take much longer. Every victim/family of CJD/TSEs should be
asked about route and source of this agent. To prolong this will only spread the
agent and needlessly expose others. In light of the findings of Asante and
Collinge et al, there should be drastic measures to safeguard the medical and
surgical arena from sporadic CJDs and all human TSEs. I only ponder how many
sporadic CJDs in the USA are type 2 PrPSc?
Diagnosis and Reporting of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease Singeltary, Sr et al.
JAMA.2001; 285: 733-734. Vol. 285 No. 6, February 14, 2001 JAMA
Diagnosis and Reporting of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease
To the Editor: In their Research Letter, Dr Gibbons and colleagues1
reported that the annual US death rate due to Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD)
has been stable since 1985. These estimates, however, are based only on reported
cases, and do not include misdiagnosed or preclinical cases. It seems to me that
misdiagnosis alone would drastically change these figures. An unknown number of
persons with a diagnosis of Alzheimer disease in fact may have CJD, although
only a small number of these patients receive the postmortem examination
necessary to make this diagnosis. Furthermore, only a few states have made CJD
reportable. Human and animal transmissible spongiform encephalopathies should be
reportable nationwide and internationally.
Terry S. Singeltary, Sr Bacliff, Tex
1. Gibbons RV, Holman RC, Belay ED, Schonberger LB. Creutzfeldt-Jakob
disease in the United States: 1979-1998. JAMA. 2000;284:2322-2323. FREE FULL
TEXT
The Lancet Infectious Diseases, Volume 3, Issue 8, Page 463, August 2003
doi:10.1016/S1473-3099(03)00715-1Cite or Link Using DOI
Tracking spongiform encephalopathies in North America
Original
Xavier Bosch
“My name is Terry S Singeltary Sr, and I live in Bacliff, Texas. I lost my
mom to hvCJD (Heidenhain variant CJD) and have been searching for answers ever
since. What I have found is that we have not been told the truth. CWD in deer
and elk is a small portion of a much bigger problem.” 49-year—old Singeltary is
one of a number of people who have remained largely unsatisfied after being told
that a close relative died from a rapidly progressive dementia compatible with
spontaneous Creutzfeldt—Jakob ...
2 January 2000
British Medical Journal
U.S. Scientist should be concerned with a CJD epidemic in the U.S., as well
15 November 1999
British Medical Journal
vCJD in the USA * BSE in U.S.
Saturday, January 2, 2010
Human Prion Diseases in the United States January 1, 2010 ***FINAL***
Saturday, October 13, 2012
On the issue of transmissibility of Alzheimer disease: A critical review
A VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR that must be
weighed in on, HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES. IF there is not a provision, clause,
that stipulates that being placed AT RISK OF CREUTZFELDT JAKOB DISEASE, would
NOT blackball you i.e. MARK you, that NOT in any way can discriminate against
you because of the disease, that NOT in any way would jeopardize or enhance cost
for health insurance for anyone being placed 'AT RISK'.
Subject: Lord Lucas asked Her Majesty's Government
about insurance company's and CJD???
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:49:14
-0700
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
Reply-To: Bovine
Spongiform Encephalopathy
To:
BSE-L@uni-karlsruhe.de
######### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy #########
Greetings Everyone,
I am deeply concerned about the answer given to
Lord Lucas on CJD and
insurance company's. In Her Majesty's reply, the reason
given for
insurance company's _not_ being able to require candidates for
life
insurance to be tested for incipient nvCJD or any human TSE, was because
there is no test to date, that would allow them to test.
My question to Her Majesty's Court would have
been;
when such a test is available, will the insurance company's be
allowed
to test for human TSE's?
It seems Lord Lucas question was not answered
fully, it seems Her
Majesty's Court just went around the question.
If in fact, the insurance company's are allowed to
do this, once again
the people would have been deceived by their government,
for the sake
of money, greed, and corporate industry$$$ This would be
devastating
to the people, not only have they been murdered by corporate
greed,
but they then would be sold out, for corporate greed. It's a
no-win
situation for public consumers...
kind regards,
Terry S. Singeltary Sr., Bacliff,
Texas USA
April 4, 2000
Lord Lucas asked Her
Majesty's Government:
Whether they will permit insurance companies to
require that candidates for life insurance be tested for
incipient
new-variant CJD.[HL1661]
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath: Insurance companies
would be unable to
introduce such a step, as no acceptable test currently
exists for the demonstration of infection before the onset of
clinical
symptoms.
Subject: Re: re-Lord Lucas U.K. Government sells
out CJD victims (and others)'again' / U.K. Government O.K.'s Genetic testing for
Insurers, looking for hereditary illnesses
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:37:22
-0700
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
Reply-To: Bovine
Spongiform Encephalopathy
To:
BSE-L@uni-karlsruhe.de
References: 1
######### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy #########
first Huntington's, then CJD, then another, and so
on.
what needs to take place, is everyone drop their insurance.
once you
give these people an opening, it's like a hole in
a dam, there is no closing
it, and it just gets bigger and
bigger. This is a serious breach of human
ethics, all for the
almighty dollar$$$
kind regards,
Terry
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
2000/0580
Friday 13th October 2000
COMMITTEE ANNOUNCES DECISION ON USE OF GENETIC
TEST
RESULTS FOR HUNTINGTON'S DISEASE BY INSURERS
The Genetics and Insurance Committee (GAIC) has
today announced that
the reliability and relevance of the genetic test for
Huntington's
Disease is sufficient for insurance companies to use the result
when
assessing applications for life insurance.
Professor John Durant, Chairman of GAIC said:
"Genetic test results are already used in certain
circumstances by
insurers and the Committee was asked to look at the
reliability and
accuracy of the genetic test for Huntington's Disease. We
have
considered carefully the application received from the Association
of
British Insurers for approval of the use of these tests.
The evidence presented demonstrates that the two
tests for the
Huntington's gene are reliable and that an abnormal result is
associated with significant clinical effects and with an increased
probability of a claim on a life insurance policy. This decision
will
mean that those with a negative test result will not be asked to
pay more for
life insurance because of their family history of
HuntingtonÆs disease.
"This decision does not mean that individuals will
be asked to have a
genetic test for Huntington's Disease before obtaining
insurance but,
where individuals have already been tested as part of their
medical
care, then there is nothing to prevent insurance companies asking
for
that information.
"Many who have a family history of a genetic
disorder such as
Huntington's Disease have difficulty in obtaining insurance
because
of their family history. The approval of the two tests for
Huntington's Disease will allow insurance to be provided at normal
rates
to those who have a normal test result."
A significant amount of data has been collected
concerning the
effects of Huntington's Disease on life expectancy and on
mortality
risk as part of the process of reviewing this application. The
Committee hopes that the insurance industry will use this information
to
look at the problems of those who have an abnormal genetic test
result and
of those who have chosen not to have a genetic test (who
have a 50 % chance
of carrying the abnormal gene if they have an
affected parent).
The GAIC was asked to examine the actuarial
evidence for using
individual genetic tests. The insurance industry, through
the main
trade body the Association of British Insurers, has agreed to abide
by GAIC decisions. If GAIC decides that the evidence on the
reliability
and relevance of a particular test is insufficient to
justify its use, the
Association have agreed to stop using them and
retrospectively reassess
affected individual insurance premiums. The
broader social and ethical issues
surrounding the use of genetic
tests in insurance and employment have been
referred to the new Human
Genetics Commission.
An application for approval of two genetic tests
for Huntington's
Disease was submitted to GAIC by the Association of British
Insurers
(ABI) in July 2000. The application was sent to a clinical
geneticist and an independent actuary for expert review and also to
support groups for Huntington's Disease and to the Genetic Interest
Group (GIG) for their comments. At their meeting on 28 September,
GAIC
considered the application, in the presence of observers from
the ABI, GIG
and Huntington's Disease Association. Their decision is
announced today.
The committee recognises that this complex subject
is an important
issue to the public, industry and government alike. GAIC
will work
closely with the new Human Genetics Commission when they begin
their
inquiry into the use of genetic data including in insurance and
employment later this year.
Notes to Editors:
A summary of the decision and further details
about GAIC and the
application process are available on the Department of
Health web
site at www.doh.gov.uk/genetics/gaic.htm
The establishment of the Genetics and Insurance
Committee (GAIC) on
12 April 1999 fulfilled the Government's commitment to
establish an
independent review body, to evaluate the scientific and
actuarial
evidence presented in support of the use of specific genetic tests
for insurance products. This was made in response to the Human
Genetics
Advisory Commission (HGAC) report on the Implications of
Genetic Testing for
the Insurance Industry, issued in December 1998.
GAIC is a non-statutory Advisory Committee and has
a UK-wide remit.
Its terms of reference are:
- to develop and publish criteria for the
evaluation of specific
genetic tests, their application to particular
conditions and their
reliability and relevance to particular types of
insurance;
- to evaluate particular tests against those
criteria and promulgate
its findings;
- to report to Health, Treasury and Department of
Trade and Industry
Ministers on proposals received by GAIC from insurance
providers and
the subsequent level of compliance by the industry with the
recommendations of GAIC.
The core membership of GAIC is:
Professor John Durant, Chief Executive of
At-Bristol as Chairman,
appointed from amongst the members of Advisory
Committee on Genetic
Testing;
Professor Sandy Raeburn, a geneticist nominated by
the Association of
British Insurers (ABI);
Professor Dian Donnai a geneticist nominated by
CMO (England);
Dr David Muiry, an Actuary nominated by the
Faculty and Institute of
Actuaries;
Mr Anthony OÆLeary, an Insurance Practitioner
nominated by the ABI;
Mrs Susan Watkin and Mrs Barbara Carmichael,
members of Patient
Support Organisations nominated by the Genetic Interest
Group;
Professor Tim Bishop, an academic with a
background in epidemiology
and genetics nominated by the Director of
Research, Department of
Health.
GAIC has published evaluation criteria covering
the details of the
genetic condition being tested for, the accuracy and
reliability of
the tests used to detect it and the relevance of the test
results to
decisions about insurance underwriting. GAIC expects that
applications will be for genetic conditions caused by changes in a
single gene, that are very likely to lead to serious ill health or
disability and that are therefore most relevant to the setting of
premiums for life and health insurance.
Over the next few months, GAIC will consider
applications relating to
the conditions currently covered by the Association
for British
Insurers' Code of Practice on Genetic Testing. These include
Huntington's Disease, myotonic dystrophy, the early-onset form of
Alzheimer's disease and rare inherited cancers. The intention is to
complete review these applications by June 2001.
The Human Genetics Commission, chaired by Baroness
Helena Kennedy,
was created in 1999 to provide the Government with strategic
advice
on the wider implications of human genetics. It replaces three
former
committees and is responsible for making links between all the other
relevant bodies in the advisory and regulatory framework. Further
information can be found at www.hgc.gov.uk
HGC has been formulating a public consultation
exercise on the
storage, protection and use of personal genetic information
which
will include the use of genetic data for insurance purposes. The
issues are due to be discussed at a public consultative meeting at
the
Centre for Life, Newcastle-upon-Tyne in November 2000.
"Terry S. Singeltary Sr." wrote:
>
>
######### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy #########
>
> Greetings List,
>
>
Talk about something that really stinks, this does. First
> the U.K.
Government allows the Industry's involved to continue
> to murder (God
only knows how many). Then they don't support them,
> and to top it off,
they then allow the only hope one has to
> get any kind of medical care,
they allow the insurers to bail
> out on victims of this man-made blunder.
I thought Lord Lucas
> asked this question to Her Majesty's Court, and Her
Majesty's
> Court said;
>
> ######### Bovine Spongiform
Encephalopathy
> #########
>
> They
replied that as there was no test they could not test, so the
> question
did not arise!
>
> Ralph
>
> > Did I miss something
or have they not yet responded to this one?
> >
> > Question
20: Whether they will permit insurance companies to require > that
>
> customers be tested for incipient nvCJD.
>
> Dear Lord
Lucas,
>
> the question has arised again, and should be
confronted.
> may i suggest that you ask this question again. it would
seem,
> with a test so close to come about for the testing of
TSE's,
> one would think, they are just preparing for the worse,
and
> covering their butts, at the same time.
>
> Politics as
usual, but my God, have not these people suffered
> enough, without the
Governments completely stripping them
> from any help at all. Hell, you
should just take them out back
> and shoot them........
>
>
kind regards,
> Terry S. Singeltary Sr., Bacliff, Texas USA
>
===========================================
>
> Thursday, 12
October, 2000, 11:28 GMT 12:28
> UK Genetic test first for UK
>
> Genetic tests can predict future illness
> Insurers in the UK are
to be allowed to use
> genetic test results to identify people
with
> hereditary illnesses.
>
> The government will announce
on Friday that
> insurers will be able to use those results to
>
refuse cover or to push up premiums for those
> born with genes that could
lead to fatal
> conditions.
>
> The decision makes Britain
the first country to
> approve the commercial use of gene
>
technology in this way.
>
> The Genetics and
> Insurance
Committee,
> an advisory body
> reporting to the
> Department
of Health,
> has decided that a test
> used to identify a
>
hereditary risk of
> contracting the disease
> Huntington's chorea
is
> technically reliable.
>
> Tests covering several other
conditions,
> including hereditary breast cancer and
> Alzheimer's
disease, are also awaiting approval.
>
> Two years ago another
advisory body, the
> Human Genetics Advisory Commission,
>
recommended a moratorium on the use of
> information from such
tests.
>
> However, that advice was rejected by the
>
government, which decided insurers should be
> able to use such
information, subject to the
> Genetics and Insurance Committee agreeing
a
> test's technical reliability.
>
> The announcement is
likely to fuel the ethical
> debate over the use of genetic
information.
>
> Critics fear that vulnerable groups could find
it
> difficult to get a mortgage or life insurance, or
> face higher
premiums.
>
> But the insurance industry dismissed that
>
suggestion.
>
> No compulsion
>
> Professor John
Durant, chairman of the
> Genetics and Insurance Committee, told
the
> BBC that nobody would be asked to take a
> genetic test by an
insurance company.
>
> Rather they would be
> expected to
disclose
> the results of any
> genetic test for
>
Huntington's disease
> they had taken in the
> past.
>
> Professor Durant said
> this would not be a
> legal
obligation, but
> insurance companies
> would have the right
to
> refuse to offer
> insurance if a customer
> refused to
reveal details.
>
> He said: "It is not a punitive step. This
will
> actually benefit very many people seeking
>
insurance.
>
> "The only people who are likely to have
taken
> a test for Huntington's disease are people with
> a family
history of this disease.
>
> "Many of those people will actually
have had
> results which show that they are fortunate
> enough not
to have inherited the gene, so
> those people will be able to get
insurance, at
> the moment they may well find it difficult."
>
> Mary Francis, the Director-General of the
> Association of
British Insurers, said that
> companies already asked potential
customers
> about family history of disease.
>
> She said:
"This is really an extension of what
> already does happen."
>
> Sue Watkin, chair of
> the Huntington's
> Disease
Association,
> also said insurance
> companies were already
>
using genetic test
> results to calculate or
> refuse
premiums.
>
> She said: "Our main concern is that people at
>
risk of late onset genetic disorders should be
> able to get insurance of
some kind up to a
> certain level.
>
> "At present, many
people are made offers they
> just cannot afford."
>
> Ms
Watkin said that a person at 50% risk of
> developing Huntington's often
found their
> insurance premium loaded by as much as
> 300%.
>
> She called on the government to establish a
> fund to be used to
provide insurance for
> people at risk.
>
> The National
Consumers' Council is concerned
> people will be put off having tests
because
> they feared that the results might count
> against them -
with a possible knock-on effect
> on their health.
>
> A
spokeswoman said: "A person might think if I
> take a test I will know
information that I don't
> know now, and maybe ignorance is bliss.
>
> "If you don't know the information you can't
> put it on the
form."
>
> The Human Genetics Commission, another
>
government advisory body overseeing
> developments in the use of
genetic
> technology, said that it would launch shortly a
> major
public consultation exercise about the
> use and protection of genetic
information,
> which would include insurance issues.
>
> The
exercise would eventually result in the
> Commission making
recommendations to
> ministers.
>
>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_968000/968443.stm
>
Subject: Re: CJD $ BLOOD $ Schmerr
test$$$
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:01:01 -0700
From: "Terry S. Singeltary
Sr."
Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
To: BSE-L@uni-karlsruhe.de
References: 1
######### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy #########
Greetings again List Members,
it just hit me about the blood testing. bought
knocked me out of the
chair. could it be, the reason they have stalled the
blood testing, they
are waiting for the genetic testing to be perfected for
the insurance
company's. once perfected and implemented, and no risk of any
type
medical insurance coverage for TSE patients, then they will be
allowed
to go ahead with the blood tests for human TSE's. pretty smart huh,
they
don't pay all these Gov. Officials just to cram BSE tainted
hamburgers
down the throat of their daughters, or just for nothing. They pay
a good
portion of them to think up schemes, to get them out of
man-made
environmental death sentences. I would love to know, who
thought
up the scheme, to brain-wash everyone into believing the 'CHOSEN
ONES'
are the only ones tied to this man-made death sentence? Probably
the
same
one to think up the genetic testing for insurance
companies.
Oh, well, this pretty much does it for me today. Probably
already
over-loaded myself today. Now i know why Mr. Schmitt only allows
4
messages.
kind regards,
Terry S. Singeltary Sr., Bacliff,
Texas USA
Department of Health Statement - Genetic Testing
and Insurance
http://213.38.88.195/coi/coipress.nsf/70e1fa6684c1d3f380256735005750fb/0a8f8fa3eddd8a4b8025697700505ead?OpenDocument
http://213.38.88.195/coi/coipress.nsf/70e1fa6684c1d3f380256735005750fb/80c7e476e82c542680256977003adf9e?OpenDocument
kind regards,
Terry S. Singeltary Sr., Bacliff,
Texas USA
"Terry S. Singeltary Sr." wrote:
>
>
######### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy #########
>
> Greetings again list
members,
>
> Has anyone heard of any further development of the
Schmerr test???
> I knew of powers within, that were trying to inhibit the
progress
> of this testing (from a _most_ reliable source), but did not
think they
> actually would stop the research.
>
> hmmmm, who
knows???
>
> Here are a few links some may find
informative;
>
> Opinion On
> Update of the Opinion given by
the Scientific Committee on Medicinal
> Products and Medical Devices on
The Risk Quantification For CJD
> Transmission Via Substances of Human
Origin;
>
> 2. Screening assays
>
> It is assumed that
although there is no proven or even probable case of
> transmission by
blood or blood products the identification and exclusion
> of donors in
the preclinical phase of CJD or vCJD would contribute to an
> increase in
the safety margin and, probably, an increase in the
> confidence in blood
and blood products by potential recipients.
> Therefore, the SCMPMD in its
Opinion of October 1998 emphasised the need
> for "the development of a
simple readily available ex vivo diagnostic
> test for preclinical
nvCJD/CJD". In addition it stated: "When a
> validated test for TSE
infectivity in donor blood becomes available, it
> should be implemented
in routine donor screening as soon as possible and
> donors found to be
positive should be excluded from donation. Member
> Statos should, in the
interest of public health, warrant availability of
> TSE tests for blood
screening in collaboration with possible patent
>
holders."
>
> During the "WHO Consultation on Diagnostic Procedures
for Transmissible
> Spongiform Encephalopathies: Need for Reference
Reagents and Reference
> Panels" held in Geneva on March 22 and 23, 1999,
M.J. Schmerr presented
> results of a new assay that may be able to detect
the pathological fbrm
> of ption protein in blood of animals in the
clinical as well as in the
> preclinical phase of TSE (serapie in sheep
and chronic wasting disease
> in deer, Schmerr 1999, Schmerr et al. 1999).
The basic reaction is the
> competition of the proteinase K treated sample
with a labelled peptide
> derived from the sequence of prion protein
binding to an antibody mised
> against this peptide (Schmerr et al. 1998).
The test material is
> extracted from buff), coat prepreed from a sample
of peripheral blood.
> >From the relation between ti'ee and bound
peptide as determined by
> capillary electropheresis the amount of
corn?ting protein i.e. protease
> resistant prion protein, is
calculated.
>
> In contrast to other tests used for the detection of
TSE infected
> animals or lbr confirmation of CJD/vCJD in humans the assay
proposed by
> Schmerr uses for the first time as test material a body
fluid, namely
> blood, which is eaqily availahl,~ In thi~ respect, this
assay fulfils a
> prerequisite for a screening assay which could be used
in the blood
> donation setting. However, it has to be stressed that this
assay is far
> from ir~ing vaildated tidier in animals or in humans. On
the contrary,
> preliminary tests with haman material performed in several
laboratories
> have not yet validated this test.
>
> There is
no doubt that the assay has the potential to be developed into
> a
screening assay, but this developmere will need a number of carefully
>
designed studies. Use in donor screening will not be possible until
>
there is more information on the sensitivity, specificity and validity
>
of the assay.
>
> The SCMPMD repeats its recommendation to support
efforts in the
> development of easily applicable screening tests for
CJD/vCJD.
>
> The SCMPMD would also like to draw the attention to an
ethical aspect of
> the expected introduction of a screening assay for
CJD/vCJD. The
> information of a positive test result would confront the
individual with
> the diagnosis of an inevitably fatal disease without any
reliable
> prediction of the duration of the preclinical phase. Such
information
> could cause severe psychological stress and would demand
careful
> counselling. In such a situation, it would not be surprising if
donors
> would stop donating il' such a test for CJD/vCJD were introduced.
If the
> number of those dollors is high the introduction of a screening
assay
> would lead to a significant loss of donors who would have to be
replaced
> by first time donors who are at higher risk of well known blood
borne
> infections. This situation should be considered well in
advance.
>
> 3. Exclusion of donors at risk for TSE infection by
ruminant derived
> material
>
> Until the end of 1998 vCJD
cases were observed only in the United
> Kingdom (UK), with one single
exception. Therefore, residency in UK was
> described as one of the known
risk factors for vCJD (the others being
> young age (i.e. below 53 years)
and homozygosity of methionine at codon
> 129 of the prion protein gene).
The exclusion of donors who resided for
> some time in the UK could,
therefore, be considered as contributing to
> minimising the theoretical
risk of vCJD transmission by blood and blood
> products.
>
>
The first recommendation of this kind was given by the Ottawa based
>
Bayer Advisory Council on Bioethics which stated in his working paper
>
"Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, blood and blood products: A bioethics
>
framework" (1998):
> "The differences between classical CJD on the one
hand and nvCJD on the
> other creme differences in the quality of the
hypothetical risk. As
> discussed earlier, the new variant form appears to
have crossed the
> species barrier from cattle. It has an earlier age at
onset, and the los
> of pathological ptiohs is much greater than in
classical forms of the
> disease. The anatomical distribution of nvCJD
infectivity is also
> different, which raises the plausible possibility
that it is more likely
> to have infectivity in the blood. Therefore,
nvCJD is the wild card that
> warrants special vigilance. The disease
appears to be isolated, at
> present, to parts of Europe. The number of
people in affected countries
> who are currently incubating the disease is
ankhown. The Council
> therefore recommends:
>
> 20. That
persons who, at any time since 1980, have resided in a
> geographic area
with a significant incidence of BSE or nvCJD not be
> permitted to
contraute blood or plasma until the hypothetical risk of
> accepting
donations from such persons can be evaluated."
>
>
http://europa.eu.int/comm/food/fs/sc/scmp/out28_en.pdf
>
> also, for
those interested, here are more documents on this and
> other
issues;
>
>
http://europa.eu.int/comm/food/fs/sc/scmp/out12_en.pdf
>
http://europa.eu.int/comm/food/fs/sc/scmp/out20_en.html
>
http://europa.eu.int/comm/food/fs/sc/scmp/out25_en.html
>
http://europa.eu.int/comm/food/fs/sc/scmp/out29_en.pdf
>
> kind
regards,
> Terry S. Singeltary Sr., Bacliff, Texas USA
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